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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
-
- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
-
- March 5th, 1992
-
- Reported by:
- Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
-
- This report contains
-
- - Meeting Agenda
- - Meeting Attendees
- - Meeting Notes
-
- Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil for more information.
-
-
- ATTENDEES
- ---------
-
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Chiappa, Noel
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / MIT
- Estrada, Susan / CERFnet
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / BBN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
-
- Regrets
-
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
-
-
- AGENDA
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-
- 1. Administrivia
-
- 1.1 Bash the Agenda
- 1.2 Approval of the Minutes
- 1.2.1 February 6th, 1992
- 1.2.2 February 20th, 1992
- 1.3 Next Meeting
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- 2. Review of Action Items
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- 3. Protocol Actions
-
- On the IESG Plate
-
- 3.1 TCP Large Windows.
- <draft-ietf-tcplw-tcpext>
- 3.2 Frame Relay MIB (Chuck Davin)
- <draft-ietf-iplpdn-frmib>
- 3.3 Network Fax
- <draft-ietf-netfax-netimage>
-
- On IAB Plate, IESG attention needed.
-
- 3.4 X.400
- <draft-ietf-kille-x_400mapping>
- <draft-ietf-kille-88to84downgrade>
-
- 4. RFC Editor Actions
-
- 4.1 Hybrid NETBIOS End-Nodes
- 4.2 Message Send Protocol
-
- 5. Technical Management Issues
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- 5.1 RFC 931 User Authentication Protocol (S. Crocker)
- 5.2 Report from the ROAD Group (PG)
- 5.3 IANA and the Class "B" allocation strategy
- 5.4 Internet Draft Format Requirements "Deplorable Documents" (PG)
- 5.5 Working Group Early Warning System (Dave Crocker)
- 5.6 Email Host Requirements (Dave Crocker)
- 5.7 Report of the Ad Hoc meeting on DNS Security (Steve Crocker)
- 5.8 OSI Integration or Multiprotocol Integration?
- 5.9 Working Group Ownership of Standards
- 5.10 EUnet Objection to MIME.
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- 6. IESG Technical Evolution document.
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- 7. Working Group Actions
-
- 7.1 Audio/Video Teleconferenceing (avt)
- 7.2 User Documents II (userdoc2)
- 7.3 BGP Deployment (bgpdepl)
- 7.4 Chassis MIB (chassis)
- 7.5 Network Access Server Requirements (nasreq)
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-
-
- MINUTES
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-
- 1. Administrivia
-
- 1.1 Bash Agenda
-
- The IESG decided to focus on ROAD discussions, as well as the
- question about "ownership" of standards.
-
- 1.2 Approval of minutes
-
- The minutes of the February 6th Teleconference were approved.
- Additional clarification is need on the minutes of the 20th, and
- approval was deferred until the next meeting.
-
- 1.3 Next Meeting
-
- The IESG plans to meet twice during the IETF Plenary in San Diego.
- They will meet for lunch Wednesday, and dinner Thursday night after
- the Open Plenary session. Proposed topics include mail related
- protocols and related issues.
-
- 2. Review of Action Items
-
- The action items were reviewed by Email prior to this meeting.
-
- Chuck Davin requested IESG attention for his outstanding action item
- to begin the process of evolving the SNMP protocol.
-
- 3. Protocol Actions
-
- 3.1 TCP Extensions for High Performance
-
- The IESG agreed to recommend the Internet Draft
- <draft-ietf-tcplw-tcpext-92> for Proposed Standard Status.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Craft and send to the IAB a recommendation to
- publish the internet draft "TCP Extensions for High Performance" as a
- Proposed Standard.
-
- A comment was sent to the IETF list in response to the last call.
- The comment was satisfactorily resolved by Dave Borman. The IESG
- briefly discussed the need to respond officially respond to last
- call comments.
-
- POSITION: All comments sent to the IESG or IETF in response to a Last
- Call should receive an official response, either by the IESG as a whole
- or the relevant Area Director,
-
- 3.2 Frame Relay MIB (Chuck Davin)
-
- The IESG agreed to recommend the Internet Draft
- <draft-ietf-iplpdn-frmib-06> for publication as a Proposed Standard.
- This document reflects minor changes from the version 05 originally
- referenced in the last call. A second last call has been issued,
- and no comments were received.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Craft and send to the IAB a recommendation to
- publish the internet draft "Management Information Base for Frame Relay
- DTEs" as a Proposed Standard.
-
- 3.3 Network Fax
-
- The IESG agreed to recommend the Internet Draft
- <draft-ietf-netfax-netimage-03> for publication as a Proposed
- Standard. The objections raised by the IESG were adequately
- addressed by the working group with editorial changes.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Craft and send to the IAB a recommendation to
- publish the internet draft "A File Format for the Exchange of Images in
- the Internet" as a Proposed Standard.
-
- 3.4 X.400 Documents
-
- The IAB has requested discussion with the IESG on the proper Working
- Group "ownership" of to X.400 specification, "X.400 1988 to 1984
- downgrading" and "Mapping between X.400(1988) / ISO 10021 and RFC
- 822". These documents were submitted to the IETF by Steve
- Hardcastle-Kille, and after review by the IETF were recommended to
- the IAB.
-
- The IESG has allowed independent submissions to the standards
- process with adequate IETF review. In this case, a BOF was called
- during the Santa Fe Plenary to review the document. The document
- has also been reviewed by RARE Working Group 1. The IAB has
- insisted that a Working Group be designated as the forum for future
- evolution of this protocol. The IAB has also asked for confirmation
- that the author is willing to cede change control to the IAB.
-
- Because this document is the product of the efforts of many groups,
- including RARE WG1 and the IETF as a whole, the IESG resisted
- placing the document in an existing IETF working group. After
- discussion, the IESG agreed to pursue chartering the RARE Working
- Group 1 jointly as a IETF working group. This step, similar to the
- joint chartering of two TSIG working groups as IETF working groups
- was seen as reasonable. RARE WG's are open to all participants, and
- do not require formal "membership". While RARE "members" receive
- funding to attend, this does not preclude others from
- participating.
-
- ACTION: Gross -- Present the IESG plan to charter the Rare WG1 as an
- IETF working group as response to the IAB's request for a Working Group
- "home" for the X.400 documents from Steve Hardcastle-Kille.
-
- POSITION: The IESG endorses the practice of jointly chartering Working
- Groups with other organizations for the purposes of standardization.
- To qualify, these working groups must meet the IETF requirements for
- openness, reporting, and participation. The IESG strongly encourages
- such groups to meet periodically at IETF Plenary meetings.
-
- 4.0 RFC Editor Actions
-
- 4.1 Hybrid NETBIOS End-Nodes
-
- The author has been asked to clarify the intended status of this
- document. It is unclear whether this is a standard track submission
- or an experimental protocol.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Resend the query to the author of the "Hybrid
- NETBIOS End-Nodes" document and Cc the RFC Editor and IESG.
-
- 4.2 Message Send Protocol
-
- The IESG has received a request from Jon Postel to clarify the
- current status of this document. An IESG response was sent to the
- RFC Editor December 10th indicating the IESG displeasure with the
- document. The IESG during the January 2nd teleconference
- reconsidered that message, and assigned Steve Crocker the action to
- craft text which would satisfy the IESG. This action continues.
-
- The IESG agreed that this action has persisted too long and agreed
- to allow the document be published as is, even though flawed.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Communicate the IESG position on the document
- "Message Send Protocol" to the RFC Editor. In particular, notify the
- Editor that the document can be published in it's current form.
-
- 5.0 Technical Management Issues
-
- 5.2 Report from the ROAD Group
-
- The ROAD ad-hoc working party is close to completing their charter
- to find "A solution" to the pressing requirements to extend the
- routing and addressing architecture to support continued Internet
- Growth.
-
- The pressing need to make forward progress in addressing the
- immanent addressing and routing problems necessitate quick action,
- starting at the San Diego IETF meeting. The ROAD Group was chartered
- to provide at least one workable strawman. The IESG expressed a
- strong desire that the hard, groundbreaking work of the ROAD group,
- be presented to the IETF community in such a manner that it can,
- without excessive delay and rehash, serve as a starting point for
- the large engineering effort to solve the global routing and
- addressing problems. To accomplish this difficult charter the work
- was conducted in a necessarily closed environment to reach closure
- on a specific proposal in a short period of time.
-
- It is the role of the IESG to manage the process by which the ROAD
- proposals may be translated into Working Groups. IETF acceptance of
- the ROAD proposals requires community buy-in. This buy in can only
- occur with a through review of the specific options considered by
- the ROAD group, any other credible proposals offered, and a through
- understanding of the options chosen by the group. To this end, a
- plenary presentation and a series of BOF's have been scheduled
- during the San Diego IETF Plenary to describe the concluding of the
- ROAD group. To apply the constructive input of the ROAD group, the
- IESG recommends early and wide dissemination of as much of the ROAD
- work as possible. Review of the proposals before the IETF meeting
- will allow constructive exploration and criticism of the ROAD
- approaches at the IETF meeting, and hopefully result in specific
- working groups to begin work on solutions.
-
- 7.0 Working Group Actions
-
- 7.1 Audio/Video Teleconferenceing (avt)
-
- The IESG reviewed approved the latest version of the Audio/Video
- Teleconferenceing charter.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the Audio Video Teleconferencing Working
- Group to the IETF.
-
- 7.2 User Documents II (userdoc2)
-
- The IESG reviewed and approved the User Documents II charter.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the User Documents II Working Group to
- the IETF.
-
- 7.3 BGP Deployment (bgpdepl)
-
- The IESG discussed the BGP Deployment charter. The IESG agreed that
- the mailing list should be separate from the IWG mailing list. The
- charter was approved pending the submission of a new working group
- mailing list.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the BGP Deployment Working Group to the
- IETF after a new email address is provided.
-
- 7.4 Chassis MIB (chassis)
-
- The IESG reviewed and approved the Chassis MIB charter.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the Chassis MIB Working Group to the
- IETF.
-
- 7.5 NAS Requirements. (nasreq)
-
- The IESG discussed the proposed NAS charter. The charter is too
- general and need to be refined. A BOF is scheduled for the IETF
- meeting and will provide an opportunity to refine the charter.
-
- ACTION: Hobby, Estrada : Attend the NAS BOF and provide guidance in the
- drafting of their charter.
-
- Topics Held over Until the Next Meeting
-
- 5.1 RFC 931 User Authentication Protocol (S.Crocker)
- 5.3 IANA and the Class "B" allocation strategy
- 5.4 Internet Draft Format Requirements "Deplorable Documents" (PG)
- 5.5 Working Group Early Warning System (Dave Crocker)
- 5.6 Email Host Requirements (Dave Crocker)
- 5.7 Report of the Ad Hoc meeting on DNS Security (Steve Crocker)
- 5.8 OSI Integration or Multiprotocol Integration?
- 5.9 WG Ownership of Standards
- 5.10 EUnet Objection to MIME.
-
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-